starting in gear

[white03]

I don't have kids: I don't pull skiers or use the boat for anything other than fishing: nobody uses the boat except me: and I recognize the saftey issue: but I have also spent $3500 to buy a new LU because the gears were grinding and teeth missing.

Granted, it was own fault that the gears started grinding because a couple times I got on the hot foot too quickly before I had completed the shift into gear, but stuff happens. I bypassed my neutral saftey switch and now start in gear. It keeps me from screwing-up again and having to spend another $3500 for another LU.

One other point, and I'm not an engineer or work for a motor manufacurter, so this is stricly a common sense point of view. There is not anyhting in the LU that allows the gears to "ease" together, as there is in an automotive transmission. It is simply the forcing, or slamming, of a rotating pinion gear into a stationary drive gear. Everytime you do this you are going to stress and mismatch the gears to some degree or another, perhaps only minimally but it will happen. Just seems to me that over time and repeated repititions, eventually something is going to break.

Just my 2 cents. We each make our own decisions and live with the consequences.

 

[Yellowallison]

BOy Howdy i knew this TOPIC wuz guuna be GOOD for hearing sum different STrONG OpinioNS

 

[ALLISONMAN]

NO smartarseness from yeller :? :? :? :? :? :?: :?: :?: :?:

 

[lightening rod]

It is not worth giving up the safety of a neutral start switch, to have the boat start in gear. Even it did cost me $3500 a year for a case, it would still not be worth it.(I would have to sell my boat as I could no longer afford to use it ;-)),but All it would take is one mishap, no matter who turned the key or why, and if an accident could have been prevented with a neutral safety switch then I would be in therapy for the rest of my life...

John, I guess the wisdom of by-passing the neutral safety switch to save gearcases is the reason you have been running the same case for so-long with no problems :roll: :roll: . And quite frankly you are the last person in the world that should accuse someone that they have no idea or no experience what they are talking about.

 

[Yellowallison]

NO smartarseness from yeller

well AMAN since YU mentioned.......some Folks not only need a neutral SAFeTY switch on thier GeAR sHiFt but also on their ZIPPER :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

and I see BILL is ready with the lotion- so PINKIE jus slips into gear!

IMO--- RaCe/hot bOAT safety switch is not needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyday fishing-family boaT YEA where kids or dumb AZZ bruther- n-laws are near - YES !!!

Next!!!!!!!!!

 

[NormALLY]

Is there a difference between the Sportmaster and Torquemaster gear sets. Or is it because the prop size is what the concern is all about(leading to chips/wear). On my 200xs I feel like it's even hard to take it out of gear.

 

[Yellowallison]

Is there a difference between the Sportmaster and Torquemaster gear sets

- NO!

bigger pitch props are harder to shift !!

 

[ziemer]

I understand the nuetral safety switch is there for safety, and to protect the engine manufacturers from lawsuits...

But...who even starts there motor when someone is in close proximity to their transom, whether it's in nuetral or not? In gear or not, I was always taught to not run an engine when someone is in the water behind the boat. Even if you are skiing, I always made sure I was far enough away before I even started the motor back up.

Mine is bypassed. :wink:

 

[John Richied]

And you are entitle to your opinion, I can respect that.

Now how do I hook this neutral safety switch back up? LOL, just kidding. :wink:

 

[David P]

I have read everyones opinions and respect each one. Starting in gear
is a personal dicision. Everyone uses their boat differently and should
make their decision accordingly. I have run with my neutral safety swith
bypassed for over 20 years, and never had a problem. I know it only
takes one time. I use my boat as some of the other guys, I'm the only
one who drives it. There are no children that ride in my boat or get
around it. If there were children envolved or someone not familier with
high performance boats, my decision would probably be different. Even
with a neutral safety swith, there is no gaurantee. If someone starts
one in a unsafe condition, they could also shift it. Take all the safety
precautions you need, but don't let that take the place of being alert to
what is going on. I do take the key out of the ignition if there are people
in water in the area of my boat.

 

[GFinch]

Gee's talk about swatting a hornet's nest!!!!!!!!!

Well I'm glad at least one or two of you read what I posted.

Really though, if you all would hook it up the way I suggested theres no need for this discusion, although it's all good.
The momentary switch is under the dash fuisha circle

The key switch in circle below the shifter.


Ignore all other items in pic's.

With the two switches apart you have to make a concerted effort to both push the switch and turn the key at the same time.

Something my bro in law couldn't do, something about piss and a boot.

 

[BP]

Damn!
Gary, with all that NASA gagetry you got going on there, if someone were lucky enough to hit the right buttons in sequence to get your boat started period, they should run out and buy a lottery ticket too!
Mine is set up to start in gear but I also take the tags off my pillows, I guess living dangerous is just a way of life for me :lol:

Gary which button throws out the oil slick to thwart the possum cops?
Just havin some fun...Nice set up!

 

[GFinch]

"Gary which button throws out the oil slick to thwart the possum cops?"

The one next to the other one.

The red and black buttons are for cycling/canciling memory's
RacePac III, Temp, Speedo and I forgot................

 

[John Richied]

Mine is set up to start in gear but I also take the tags off my pillows, I guess living dangerous is just a way of life for me :lol: !

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[fishnfireman]

Mine is set up to start in gear but I also take the tags off my pillows, I guess living dangerous is just a way of life for me :lol: !

You guys just think you live dangerous :idea:

Try taking the mattress tag off :!:

now thats some dangerous stuff right there :arrow:

 

[fishnfireman]

Gary,
I really thought you had it going on until we got to the fucia thing.....what the hell is a fucia :?:

That is the way to hook one up. If they were all like that it would be nice..
Its good to see someone else who likes the floor mounted trim switches.

I have one question :?: which one is the eject button :arrow:

 

[Yellowallison]

Holy MAD EFI - Gary!!!

YU for sure get a CHRISTMAS card from WAYNE TAYLOR!!!!
:mrgreen:


Cool looking PICS --- with all yur setup!

How YU like it Waynes stuff - have YU gotten all yur number set??

 

[GFinch]

You guys just think you live dangerous :idea:

Try taking the mattress tag off :!:

now thats some dangerous stuff right there :arrow:[/quote]

I tried to take the tag off a water bed I had once................

 

[GFinch]

Gary,
I really thought you had it going on until we got to the fucia thing.....what the hell is a fucia :?:

sort of like pink

That is the way to hook one up. If they were all like that it would be nice..
Its good to see someone else who likes the floor mounted trim switches.



I have one question :?: which one is the eject button :arrow:

Thats the one I forgot!!

 

[GFinch]

Holy MAD EFI - Gary!!!

YU for sure get a CHRISTMAS card from WAYNE TAYLOR!!!!
:mrgreen:


Cool looking PICS --- with all yur setup!

How YU like it Waynes stuff - have YU gotten all yur number set??

Wayne WHO !!!!! Oh you mean "The High Tech Red Neck" Don't know him..........

Great stuff!! Just have to remember your going to have to work to make it work.

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