Thanks Lightning. Ziemer good idea. Ill have to do it when shes at work.:big grin I just bought a car for short hauls with the GS pick it up tomorrow. A 300C with the Hemi full load. I want to get a trailer hitch but not over kill just enough to tow the GS with the Tandem trailer thats it. I think a 3000-3800 pounder should do it?