ROBERT CROSS
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:at the bar For us....the last real Ford.
Not many of the diesel (3.0L vm motori) Ram's out there. THe first round of production went quick. Now I hear Toyota is working on a 5.0 cummins. I've said all along Dodge should have picked a bigger diesel for the 1/2 ton application. The 3.0 is targetted for MPG, but those that want tow power in a half ton may be swayed to the Toyota line for the 5.0 cummins.There's as many stories good and bad as there are truck owners, agreed. I've heard of the trubo issue with shuddering and hesitating when putting the pedal to it in some instances with high moisture situations but also heard that issue was resolved.
You saying you get 26 MPG average and about 4 less when towing with a V6 Dodge Ram?? And that's gas or diesel?
Diesel power mag has a great write up on it vs. the 2500 cummins. It did shockingly well.Not many of the diesel (3.0L vm motori) Ram's out there. THe first round of production went quick. Now I hear Toyota is working on a 5.0 cummins. I've said all along Dodge should have picked a bigger diesel for the 1/2 ton application. The 3.0 is targetted for MPG, but those that want tow power in a half ton may be swayed to the Toyota line for the 5.0 cummins.
Still the 3.0 diesel ram by all reports will put down 28-29 mpg unloaded on the highway, and one review showed 19 mpg with a 7k lb trailer in tow. 420 ft-lb's of torque at 2k RPM is nothing to sneeze at.......
That's going to be the new thing with all of them going with a hot little turbo d.Diesel power mag has a great write up on it vs. the 2500 cummins. It did shockingly well.
Yes, I am getting 26 plus or minus 1 mpg in mixed driving. It is the v6 gas 4x4 with 8 speed. My 2012 HEMI got 17.
I have an Ecoboost F150. The air charge coolers work so well that moisture is condensing in the air charge cooler and getting sucked into the motor during heavy acceleration. This causes misfires and the shuddering and then the unburnt fuel going out collects and ignites in the cat and then melts the cat over time (covered by the emissions warranty).
Ford "fixed" mine by putting a huge piece of plastic across my air charge cooler blocking 75% of it (to not allow the air to cool down as much rendering the turbo less effective). Apparently, they have tried and failed to make it better. Their cost effective "remediation plan" is to dumb down the motor vs. really investing in correcting the root cause issue (poorly designed turbo system). You would think Ford would have learned their lesson with turbos on the 2008 6.4 PowerStroke Navistar engines that were ingesting moisture and suffered the exact same issue as the 3.5 EcoBoost. This is not a new issue for Ford.
I'm not getting the mileage (21 mpg) I got when the truck was new, mainly getting what the 5.0 V8 gets. To sum up, go 5.0 and not worry about turbos.
Need vs Want :laughingI tow with a 2002 Trailblazer, how much get up and go do you need with an Allison
I have a '12. There were several iterations of repairs by Ford to correct the issue involving new air charge cooler designs, reprogramming the ECU, etc. Nothing worked. I don't know what the new models rolling off the line have. Going back to non-turbo V8 after this truck.Thanks for the info Duane. Just curious though, what year is yours and did Ford do anything to change or modify the new eco's after yours? I've read somewhere that it was "fixed" or is that the fix you described for new and old vehicles?
I've been leaning toward the 5.0L V8!!
Thanks again Duane. I'll go with the 5.0L V8 F150 if I do decide to trade in my F250.I have a '12. There were several iterations of repairs by Ford to correct the issue involving new air charge cooler designs, reprogramming the ECU, etc. Nothing worked. I don't know what the new models rolling off the line have. Going back to non-turbo V8 after this truck.