All motor is what we are, I just don't want anyone under my cowl or around my pad. I know they'll be bitchin if we do some spanking. First words will be "he sprayed it". I wasn't responding about a teardown or weight about racing at the rally, just in certain sanctioned events that we don't run because " we're slow". We race against 1/4 masters, streams, and xr's all the time in our little club, nobody complains win or loose.